Here's a Zell Hell sticker gracing the memorial for Harry and Marian Otis Chandler. Harry was a newspaper man, but also a real estate mogul. I'm sure he and Zell will have much to talk about some day.
And here it is on Eliza Otis' marker, Harry's mother-in-law and wife of Harrison Gray Otis, civic booster, real estate speculator and right wing nut. Another Zell companion some day.
Finally, the 1910 blast memorial. That took some climbing, partner:
Relax. All stickers were removed, any trace of unpleasantness brushed away and the Chandlers were allowed to return to somnolence.
The Retch encourages more exotic locales. Send your pictures in for posting, and let the world know that Sam Zell can't be trusted with the LA Times.
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Not just the Times — ANY newspaper.
No class or respect. Just what would have been expected from overpaid, spoiled liberals who get paid $100K or more to write one column per week. How sad.
Why bother removing the stickers?
$100,000? Are you fucking kidding me? And there are people who do more than just write for newspapers. And we all get paid way less than $100,000. Fuck you. We're not accountants, investment bankers, insurance salesmen. This isn't about the fucking money.
You make being a journalist sound so easy. $100k is pretty middle class if you ask me. You need to make $80k in order to be able to raise a family in this town.
Although I don't see the point in the stickers, I get the message. Keep it up.
Well, I'm disappointed in you, TZ. You started out with some astute ideas for investigative pieces, descended through a union phase and have hit bottom pulling juvenile pranks.
Given your ardor for organized labor, posting a sticker at the memorial for the blast victims--who were killed by labor radicals--is particularly repulsive. They were just working folks, most in the composing room as I recall.
If only you were half as talented as the overpaid liberals who tirelessly report the news every day. The real sadness is people like you who have an attitude that journalists are unimportant and replaceable. If you want to rely on the opinions of unexperienced, uninformed bloggers and writers who post copy that hasn't been edited, fact checked or properly researched for that matter, go right ahead. You and Zell can have a great time in our impending brainless society. Maybe he can run for president one day and sell the Golden Gate Bridge to China. Loser.
Unless the Timesers organize, you will lose your jobs and pensions. Sheesh, you guys own the newspaper, but have no control? How pathetic is that? How about hiring some lawyers to challenge the deal?
This is a great site and I know you are focused on the print division of Tribune...but after print you know Zell is going to his tv properties...already the GM of WGN has left instead of having to go through working for Zell...and there are all kind of rumors of a combo deal between the Tribune and LLC TV that will lead to loss of more jobs...would love to see you include the electronic side of Zells mad mind....
So you don't post pro-Zell comments I guess. Lame. And revealing! Or maybe you're too busy defacing graves....
Your angry antics (placing bumper stickers on the company founders grave sites) is downright stupid. I am sure Sam Zell is laughing his ass off. What you refuse to see is that the bottom line is your out of touch. You think your MORE brilliant, smarter than everyone. Your lofty left-wind mindset is abhorrent to most of us. People don't want a left-wing newspaper. Advertisers realize this and that's why the ads are shifting to online. Your left wing rants are the reason of your own impending demise.
"Well, I'm disappointed in you, TZ. You started out with some astute ideas for investigative pieces, descended through a union phase and have hit bottom pulling juvenile pranks."
Where did the chief of this site say that he/she was responsible for placing said stickers?
Honeys, it's time to find another line of work. This is futile. Nobody values content.
I sit here looking at the crows outside my window, dreading making calls for a stupid trade paper story I'm working on that pays .60 a word. My first national assignment 20 years ago paid $1 a word. Today I'm lucky if I get $2.
Not all journalists work in newspapers. Those of us who could never break into the "real journalist's" club of daily newspapers can't deny there's a twinge of schadenfreude whenever we read about the carnage at the Times.
What you're going through is nothing new. Other journalists in Los Angeles have been through the same thing. Only when it happened to us, nobody cared. We've been through the new jet-setting owners, the "what's going to happen next?" whisper's in the bathroom, the mindfucks in meetings, the first round of layoffs and the horrible waiting. We've seen our publications dumbed down and destroyed. We've been sent the same ridiculous changes and suggestions from new management for "packaging" stories. And finally we've been layed off. Nobody cried for us. Nobody gave a shit.
I have smart friends who switched to edit jobs in new media ages ago. Guess what? They're not immune to this either. The new mantra from owners is "user generated content." They're saying, Let the readers talk amongst themselves and let's just rake in the dough. Who needs writers or editors?!
"You think your MORE brilliant, smarter than everyone. Your lofty left-wind mindset is abhorrent to most of us."
I don't know where to start here, but I'm pretty sure this poster couldn't spell "irony" with a dictionary.
Bumper stickers on grave stones does seem a bit juvenile and disrespectful. It does create a opening for those claiming L.A. Times reporters and editors are a bunch of spoiled, pampered, overpaid hacks that are just being brought down to the real world by successful businessman and entrepreneur Sam Zell.
Somebody put a bumper sticker on my family tombstone, I'd be P.O.ed something bigtime.
That being said, how about a paid "Zell Hell take back the Times" billboard ad. Sort of like the Angelyne billboards. The word "Hell" will probably kill it with certain types. Use "H*ll". About time something real was put on a few of the billboards that pollute the landscape of L.A. Something that makes people think (for a change).
As for "user generated content", isn't that something that gets flushed down the toilet?
You know...
Fuck you if:
You think news is run by libs
Fuck you if:
You think they make 100k/year
Fuck you if:
you think this is a Union-backed "revolt"
Fuck you if:
you think Zell Hell stickers appearing is a juvenile prank.
The print news industry is going through a major Sturm und Drang but this is but a tip of the iceberg for all media, TV news and esp when TV switches analog off.
It is one thing to aggressively reposition your business to minimize losses and best capture a new audience, another thing entirely when the new "owner" is Viagra-obsessed troll who completely lacks know-how and experience and surrounds himself with like-minded toadies.
Yeah, stickers at gravesites may be juvenile, but cluelessly running an institution into the ground is any better?
Dont make me laugh.
So what's the deal with the poster who spams all over the comment sections of this blog untruthfully smearing those losing their jobs as being lefties, spoiled brats and in the $100k tax bracket?
Yet, he or she is an illiterate.
For a single example, there is a difference between "your" and "you're." But you didn't know that. Did you flunk out of grammar school? There's a lot more you don't know. How sad for you and your pack.
You apparently know little of the world of media and journalism. And you know nothing of these newly out-of-work newspaper folks.
If you and your coven hate the Times (and other newspapers) as much as you profess, why are you reading it? Why are you expending so much of your energy and bodily fluids pissing on it? Switch over to the diversions of Entertainment Tonight or TMZ.com. Or how about the screaming heads on cable or talk radio purporting to be news. That's not news. That's not journalism. Those are tantrums.
While you sop it up, you'll get the government, city, neighborhood, police, taxes, banking system, zoning, airports, transit system, contaminated products, wars and tyrants you deserve.
Or maybe you can start your own broadcast, or print or web publication to provide your version of the truth. I bet you don't have a glimmer of an idea how to do it.
I'm so sorry you are so unhappy.
PS: After the earthquake the other day, did you click on MSM radio or TV to find out what was happening? I thought so.
"That's not news. That's not journalism. Those are tantrums."
LOL! That's my new favorite quote. Well done.
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